Showing posts with label TNS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TNS. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Saigon Digital Marketing Conference Successfully Avoids Plumbers Convention: Saigon's oldest digital man, reporting...


Bryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, Ralf Matthaes, VinagameWith just a touch of trepidation I awoke on Saturday May 23rd to brew my cafe' and get ready for the Saigon Digital Marketing conference (SDM) at the New World Hotel. Little could I have known that on that day as well, Hugh MacLeod would feature me once again in one of the most popular blogs in the world, the Gapingvoid, and that I would be enroute to my crowning at the event as "Saigon's oldest digital man". I say trepidation because just a month earlier I had written a post called "A Tale of Many Marketing Conferences" and had done an early assessment of what I thought SDM would amount to. On a five point scale I had given them a 2.6, so no one would have said I was exactly in love with the folks from the get-go (I give a revised score later in this post). My relationship with SDM began with a request for me to speak at the event, based on a marketing predictions post I had done at the start of 09, but we were never able to come to any workable compensation agreement and so I had elected to not speak and only attend the publicly announced free keynote speeches and let it go at that. I had, however, assembled a skeleton crew of other attendees who had agreed to provide me with their views on the event and felt that through my partial attendance and their more well rounded opinions we would come to a good overview of what many industry executives had felt was a non-event. I had even joked to a few friends evenings before that I might be thrown out of the gathering as a party crasher looking for a story where no story was to be had - an interloper at a $180 conference who was too damn cheap to pony up the money to hang with the rich and famous of the Saigon digital world (of which there are possibly 1 and a half). Thankfully I couldn't have been more wrong. Finishing a coffee and wandering into the main hall to see Jeremy Fain from the Interactive Advertising Bureau in the US, the opening keynote speaker, I found a number of people I knew and immediately began to get a sense of the day. Research folks, only two kiosks giving away brochures I didn't want, and meeting Bryan Pelz of Vinagame, who had given me a nice link on his blog, would be my openers, followed by seeing Simon Christy and Ettiene Ricco, both of whom I knew from online communities here in country - but a more than conspicuous lack of the big advertising agency folk who handle 80% of the money spent on promotion and branding here in Vietnam. Martin Sorrel loves digital, judging by his recent spate of purchases around the world, but there were none of his Vietnam boys to be seen at SDM - at least none that I knew. I'm going to give you a rundown of the presentations I attended a bit later but I thought it would be much better to begin things here with some comments from other attendees.

"I found the day worthwhile for catching up with some interesting people like you. And yes, as you mentioned in your blog, it was not worth spending that much to approach the information that we are able to download from the Internet. But what we can't download is people to meet in person. And that was worth paying for! :)"

"I would say hats off to the organizers – they pulled it off well despite earlier reservations. I found the day very useful for networking. As a 1st event it was surely a success. But I agree more case studies would be ideal for next year. So 101 this year - but surely next year will see a leap forward. The industry needs this to help develop."

"From those I spoke to after, including my own team, overall expectations were a little low before the event but they felt the event had actually passed off quite successfully with some interesting talks. The only negative feedback I heard was that there was some ‘overlapping’ of content/topics covered, in particular between the TNS presentation and Yahoo. That aside, it feels like a promising start to what could become an interesting annual event in our Vietnam marketing world. - P.S. Loved your biz card! :-)"

"I was very impressed with the conference for both its production quality and its content. I hope that SDM succeeds in holding these more than once a year going forward."

"You are special person at SDM by your fashion and sticky business card visit."

Okay, that last one was my own ego working overtime but I'm sure you can see from the above that the general view of the event was positive and worthwhile. The comments above are all from managing directors and company owners. After the keynote speech IBryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, Ralf Matthaes, Vinagame ventured back out into the hallway for another coffee and a cigarette (Thank god you can still smoke in Asia without being accosted by the nanny police!) I met Ralf Matthaes from TNS with whom I share an old friend in Korea in David Richardson, and Chris Elkin of Red Brandbuilders - both pretty smart guys, and then finally, Kelvin To, the chief organizer of the event. Despite my earlier writings that the event might not live up to it's (could-have-been-a-whole-lot-more-effective) hype, Kelvin immediately dragged me up to the registration counter and handed me a press pass, stating, "We forgot to get you a blogger pass" and I was thrust back into the mix as the only blogger I know - there as a guest soley for being a blogger. I do understand that Marketing magazine was an endorser and may well do a story on the event but as far as English coverage, and there is none in mainstream media, I'm about as good as you're going to get around here covering marketing and indeed digital marketing.

As I don't have official numbers, I can say that the conference certainly met its goal of 200 all-day participants, but how many of those people paid is another question entirely. I'm going to venture 1/2 and think I won't be far off. There were plenty of employees from each of the sponsors, which I'm sure were not paying customers - but the one thing I was happy to see is that the extra 800 students or whomever they could have gotten to jam the free events didn't materialize. There was no real exhibition area as was planned in the initial proposal, leading me to think that they didn't sell any of the booth space, and of the laundry list of sponsors, endorsers and other assorted logos adorning all the handouts, I'd guess that only Toshiba and maybe a couple of others actually came across with any cash. The Vietnam Marketing Association, which, in happy comparison to The Vietnam Advertising Association, does have a very nice and informative website was unfortunately non-existent at the event itself and whomever comprises ADMA, the Asian Digital Marketing Association, didn't seem to have sent anybody - these misses were more misses for the organizations themselves than they were for SDM and the day.

Bryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, Ralf Matthaes, VinagameAs a one man band I was more than effective with my now signature Rubber Stamp Post-It Note business cards and had people asking me for extras for their friends. At one point I even produced the rubber stamp and a pad of ink and went to work on cocktail napkins. This proved to be not only humourous for most but provided a nice icebreaker for meeting many people throughout the day. For the next marketing conference I do, I am determined to give an entire presentation using only Post-It Notes and old-style goose-necked overhead projectors by just writing the show on Post-Its and peeling them off as I go along. I've got a few other Post-It tricks up my sleeve so don't be surprised if you see this guerilla marketing scam have a couple of lives. This lo-tech approach to a high-tech target is the kind of thinking clients need when approaching a medium so attention-span-challenged as the Internet.

Following are my notes on the presentations I was able to see. Keep in mind that it was an all-day conference with three or four presentations rooms going at one time so I was only able to spend a few minutes in some and none in others if the subjects or presentations were not of interest to me. All presentations are downloadable now on the SDM site.

Keynote Speech: Jeremy Fain, Interactive Advertising Bureau, USA

The nuts of Jeremy's pitch were simple. Have standards. Any standards. Standard ad sizes. Standard price rates. Standard methods of measurement. Seems simple enough, until you look at this market and realize that the only standard we really have is to make sure the typography is right-side-up. Bryan Pelz moderated and asked all the right, and funny questions to wrap this one up.

Digital Marketing 101: Simon Christy, Founder VEO Media

Simon's presentation for me, was quite possibly the best of the day. He had sex, violence and just the right amount of humour with a case study for the Sun newspapers in England and an entertaining well designed slide/video show. Unfortunately the show has not yet translated well to being downloaded so I am not including it here. I'm told the techie dudes at SDM are working on this...

Digital Brandbuilding: Chris Elkin, Managing Director, red-Brand Builders

Sorry Chris, but as this was a bit 101 for me I elected to move along to the Cimigo show as one can only get in so much in so much time, but thanks to the miracle of downloads, everyone can get a copy here.

The Vietnam Online Explosion: Richard Burrage, Managing Director, Cimigo

This was an all out love story with the Internet as heroine. If you're in love with the numbers first before you commit big cash, this is the presentation for you. I've included it here:

Vietnam.online.explosion.cimigo.sdm.09


The big numbers here are all about the age group (young) and the sheer amount of time they spend on the Internet. If you've got something that young people want to buy, like music, a motorbike, a wedding ring, a house or a college education - you do the math. Easy.

Lunch: The metrics of packing in as much food as possible so you can make it through an entire afternoon of more of this stuff

There is no down-loadable lunch as it goes in digital land so short of bringing your own doggy bag you just troll the buffet tables until they run out of your favourite stuff. Talking to a few blokes after the event, they had taken the wise step of visiting the bar downstairs for a few beers to get through the rest of the day - certainly recommended for next time.

ROI Justification in Digital Media was not a particularly scintillating topic for me as I don't believe in trying to evaluate brand efforts in that manner at this stage of the game, in this country, at this time (too young a market), so I skipped that presentation - what I felt was lacking in the conference by this point was an element of selling the sizzle instead of the steak. The absolutely breathtaking taking changes we're witnessing in new media can be best viewed through the likes of YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and who knows what's coming next. Brands should be dipping their toes into all sorts of less-than-logical-in-the-past efforts to see what works for them. The idea is more that you're embracing the new communications channels than looking for big ROI (Return On Investment) off the bat.

Conversely, I was very interested in what Aryeh Sternberg had to say about Digital 360 Branding but he had technical difficulties, as had unfortunately plagued most of the day, and couldn't get his screen working. His presentation is here but I have to say, I must have missed something by not seeing it in person because what's on the screen just seems to me to be overly complicated, not so well designed and less than sexy in an arena where the idea of something is a whole lot more interesting - to even advertisers who may not understand it completely - than a detailed look under the hood. Sometimes less is more and I was in search of that at this point.

Internet and Media Shifts in Vietnam: Ralf Matthaes, Managing Director, TNS

There's one thing you can always count on in a TNS presentation: You're not going to get a lot of bullshit. That's why they make the big bucks - but the presentation here is an awfully good look at the heart of the market and what they are doing with their media. The big message? TV is still king but the Internet is the fastest growing. Not news, but it's good to see it in pictures. Ralf's show was so good that Yahoo used the exact same one later, which somebody should have caught, but TNS gets a few points from me for actually conducting a poll about their presentation, in their presentation, and that's just plain smart research.

Internet.And.Media.Shifs.TNS.SDM.09



Next, I was off to Julia Miremont Morton's look into Online women's communities in Vietnam. I have to say that I had been looking forward to this all day and really didn't care much about email marketing or the role of ad networks in the mix. Yes, those presentations were valuable to some, but just not to me.

Her Vietnam, a case study: Juliette Miremont Morton, CEO, Vina Woman Ltd.

The reason Julliette's presentation was so attractive, or at least the idea of it, is that it was the only show of the day to deal head on with the concept of social networking- the idea that actual societies are being created digitally and evolving people's communication methods in ways that have never before been possible. Since I have spent an entire life, basically proving that I don't know anything about women, let's save my comments on the content and you take a look at it yourself:

JMorton.Her.Vietnam.SDM.09


As we should all understand, seeing a presentation here is not the same as being there and in Juliette's case, that's an absolute shame because she is a wonderful and engaging presentBryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, TNS, Ralf Matthaes, Vinagame er and her PowerPoint show should be a model for all people doing PowerPoint shows - in any business. 21 slides. That's it. And each slide, simple and illustrative enough to keep your attention without taking attention away from the speaker. For all those who presented 87 slides that looked like a page out of Encyclopaedia Brittanica - take a look at this one. Simple. Graphically elegant and indelibly communicative - together with an engaging speaker and audience interaction it just can't be beat. Add to that, that Juliette's credentials and business model are ones that I believe will be successful in Vietnam in the immediate future, making more of a case for interaction and involvement than flat out marketing per se, in the burgeoning area of user-generated content and communal motivation. Ideas and results like this will build the Siliconmunist Valley I have so often referred to as Vietnam's digital future.

Moving along we're almost at the end of the show. Without taking anything away from Joe Nguyen of ComScore's presentation, all I can say is that after a day of the same data it was a bit of a haul getting through his show, and the research guy with whom I was sitting wanted to beg to differ with all sorts of numbers. I needed some rock and roll - or something. Let's all give this guy a break though because he was all of five days on the job and had a tough slot to fill. End of the day is tough on everyone at these things. I watched Bill Lynch, the CEO from Burnett, try to do a closer at the IAA in Seoul after Martin Sorrell did the opening and well - it was not pretty.

Closing Keynote: Bennett Porter, Head of Marketing, Southeast Asia

On to Bennett Porter, Head of Marketing for Yahoo! in Southeast Asia. Despite seeming fresh off the plane, and unfortunately armed with the exact same slide show that TNS head, Ralf Matthaes, had shown just hours earlier, she carried off her part of the festivities with pannache Bryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, TNS, Ralf Matthaes, Vinagame and style. An energetic presenter, nobody could doubt her commitment, but there were some serious questions to be asked by Bryan Pelz and conference attendees regarding Yahhoo!'s future in VN and the fate of their 360 social networking service. And it was there that Ms. Porter was a bit short on answers - not because she didn't know them but because recent management changes and shuffling things about at Yahoo! corporate have probably made it impossible to know exactly. Case in point: It is the common perception in Vietnam that 360 will close and bloggers are busy moving their accounts to Blogger, WordPress and MoveableType - but the Yahoo! party line is that they're just "upgrading" the service to become Yahoo! 360+. Duh. With blogging occupying such a large part of the Vietnamese market either Yahoo has done a miserable job communicating what will happen to the service or they've done a miserable job communicating what will happen to the service. Note to Yahoo!: Have a meeting on this. Ms. Porter finished the day with some broad strokes about Yahoo! being able to aggregate all sorts of social networking functions (Facebook, Twitter, Mixx, Digg, etc.) but generally leaving the future fairly fuzzy for the service that is still #1 in terms of email and SMS in Vietnam. Note to competitors: Have a meeting on this.

Closing: Networking party

Note to party planners: The digital future is full of young (aside from me!) energetic people who have a love of music, culture, social networking and almost anything new that happens to pop up on the Internet. Do not, and I repeat, do not, hire a Bar Mitzvah band to play the reception!

Dreadful. Can we spell d.r.e.a.d.f.u.l.? This band of a fiddle, accordian, guitar, keyboard and drums opened with a stirring rendition of "Roll ot the Barrel" followed by the BBryan Pelz, Jeremy Fain, Martin Sorrell, Saigon Digital Marketing, Blogger, Yahoo. Cimigo, Vietnam Advertising Association, TNS, Ralf Matthaes, Vinagame eatle's "Yesterday". Jeeziz. Did somebody die? It was positively the worst music I have ever heard at any event. But maybe nobody cared - the drinks were free, or part of your fee. With a town full of great DJs from the boyz at Dose to Mark Allan, somebody should have been all over this. Dragging these hotel relics out of mothballs for this event was just not the thing to do. SDM: Have a meeting on this. Other than that it was fun, and a few drinks loosened up the now digital data inflicted crowd and made for some nice photos. Some students were allowed in and there seemed to be a fresh injection of folks whom we had not seen all day. To SDM's credit, no speeches were made and the hors d'ourves were tasty.

"The oldest digital man in Saigon"

The conference actually ended for me a few days later when Danny from SDM called me up for a lunch. At a nice restaurant called the Hide-A-Way Cafe he told me a story about seeing me at BarCamp a few months ago and wondering "Who was the old guy?". I was certainly the oldest at BarCamp. But I protested a bit (my ego getting in the way of being old) and said that I had checked with one of the research guys and he had turned out to be 2 years older than I. Danny fired back, "That doesn't matter. He's a research guy and you're a digital guy, so you're the oldest digital man in Saigon!" Better to have a crown than to have none at all.

From my post "A Tale of Many Marketing Conferences" I have taken the pre-rating (2.6) for SDM and updated it from my original comments in red type from the real event below:

1) Concept @@ - Nicking a business model from the US and just sticking it in Vietnam is not a concept - I think they understand this now but maybe had to do this once, just to see how the needs and resources here are different. I'm sure next time will be more original.

2) Content @@@ - Speakers and presentations are above average but lacking a real Internet celebrity - my friend Hugh Macleod would have been an excellent choice since he's built a career out of digital marketing and has a book called "Ignore Everybody" coming out in June. For the prices, this event begs a bigger name than any featured. I still find this to be true. Although Jeremy Fain was an expense to be brought in from the US we still lacked the big futurist kind of speaker who can sell the "sizzle instead of the steak" and get people thinking outside of the box.

3) Venue @@@ - New media requires new thinking - the New World Hotel just puts things back into an old world again. I'm still the same on this. Let's get this thing out of a big hotel and into a space that inspires new thinking. And besides, the equipment and support all day was a problem and a 5 star hotel didn't even have free WIFI for attendees - a real mistake at a digital event!

4) Cost/Value @@ - At $180 - $280 we're getting almost to the price of seeing a Nobel Laureate - but corporations get the cheapest prices here? Shouldn't there be an entrepreneur's discount? At least there's a cocktail party at the end of the day. This comment from Kay Bayliss, Director of the Asia Digital Marketing Association (a co-sponsor who didn't show up) indicates that their Hong Kong conference cost roughly the same, yet our economies are radically different. Things should cost less in Vietnam. - And for me and many others, cost is still an issue. The event had no way to allow some of the small start-up Internet companies participate on a scale that was economically feasible for them - getting this out of a 5 star hotel is one place to start

5) Community. @@@@@ - The current SDM website includes a blogging option but there's still not much in it - maybe after the event - also there's a Facebook group. Should SDM put the presentations up for download and begin a regular dialogue with the community via a blog and news, this would add a lot of lasting value to the industry - and there's always the cocktail party. - This is where the entire event shined the brightest. The lack of big agency involvement was an obvious gap in the "community" aspect of things, but I'm betting that that's the agency's "don't give a damn about digital" attitude and that may well kill them off if they don't get on board. Otherwise the networking party - minus the band - and the ability to download all the presentations make this a 5 star category.

Final Score = 3 stars

I end this post with a thanks to SDM. Thanks for letting me attend. Thanks for avoiding the plumbers convention that some had predicted. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. And thanks for putting an idea above profit in the end. That's the kind of thinking that will build a future for everyone in the business - except for maybe the dinosaurs. Are you listening, Sir Martin?

For more on digital marketing and social networking see:

Xing vs. LinkedIn: Round II
Trial and Error: The New Normal
What's Wrong With My Social Networking? Xing vs. LinkedIn I
Low Tech Germany. Who Knew?
Advertising People and Blogs
How to Write the Best Blog in the World
What If Gutenberg Had a Blog?
If Blogs Are Free Does That Make Them Worthless?
Detri-Viral Marketing II: The Top 10 Social Media Blunders
Bright Lights, Big Internet and the WWED
Saigon Digital Marketing Conference Successfully Avoids Plumbers Convention
A Tale of Many Marketing Conferences
Detri-Viral Marketing I: How Web 2.0 Can Go Against A Brand
Marketing Predictions for 2009
Barcamp Saigon 2008
"Ignore Everybody" is Born: A Plug for Hugh MacLeod
Are the Bloggerati Missing the Market? Asia has Risen,
Into the Gapinvoid - Web 2.0 Social Networking Born 20 Years Ago


Thursday, April 23, 2009

A Tale of Many Marketing Conferences in Vietnam: Getting Your Money's Worth In a Challenging Year

And where have I been for a week? I've been writing this blog, and attending marketing conferences, and writing this blog, and attending more conferences, and then writing this blog again. But wait, there was only one marketing conference last week and that was in Hanoi - and we're not sure that anybody really went to that one - and so one has to logically ask: How have I done this?

Well, thanks to VietnamMarcom and a wonderfully resourceful web review of their last conference, the whole community can share in the knowledge, save $180 bucks, and get pretty much what your going to get at any other conference that may come along. These days any person with a computer, Google Alerts and a few newspapers can pretty much keep up on whatever happens live or in print in the marketing world, saving your conference dollars for the ones that really matter. The following story will attempt to cover the conferences that have happened in the digital/marketing world over the last few months as well as those that are about to happen.

To do this, I've created a five-star rating system that covers:

1) Concept
2) Content
3) Venue
4) Cost/Value
5) Community.

Concept: means the "subject" of the conference. Is there a key business idea that's being discussed or is it just the annual plumber's convention?

Content:
covers the relative value of the speakers and their particular session. Are you getting real info like problem/solution workshops and case studies or just looking at vendor company's stock PowerPoint capabilities presentations?

Venue:
looks at the relative value of the hosting place to the conference itself. Does it need to be a five-star hotel because that's prestigious or would an inspired choice like the HCMC Zoo work better as the Vietnam Advertising Festival did last year?

Cost/Value:
is not so simple as it might sound. Two of the following conferences cost the same, but one throws in a cocktail party for the same fee? Does that have value for you or your company? And finally,

Community:
One of the key benefits of any conference is the ability to meet people you would otherwise not be able to meet - to network, discuss and begin or advance relationships beyond the conference itself. These days, that includes a digital element as well - a way of keeping the conversation going and providing ongoing value.

Each area will have a possibility of 5-stars with one being an
"F" and five being an "A" to be aggregated into a composite 5-star average.

The good news in all of this, no matter how the conferences stack up, is that I have a lot to write about. For a market that's roughly a billion dollars in marketing spend each year
(with only ten million spent digitally) there's a lot going on - but since we all can't be in all places all the time, hopefully this will help us all make some choices about where to spend our respective company's time and money as the events proceed.

But before I launch into what may turn out to be my longest marketing post of the year we need to understand that conference organizers come in two distinct flavours.
Profit and non-profit. Since were all in this business to make money I have no problem with people who put on conferences for a living, so long as they are providing good value - conversely, I have no love for industry or educationally organized conference if it's done on the cheap and offers little value.

And I've been to, judged and spoken at plenty of these things: From the IAA in Seoul, to the CLIOS, New York Art Directors Show, The ONE Show in New York to private corporate affairs for Cheil Communications and Pacific Cosmetics in Korea I've gotten a pretty good flavour for sorting the good from the bad - and here in Vietnam we've either had, or are going to have both. You can download my public speaking Bio Here:


DEC.BIO.04.09



...and now, on with the shows!


1) The Vietnam Marketing Conference - for-profit

Review: Hosted on February 18th by VietnamMarcom this was a full day affair at the New World Hotel with a very good roster of speakers and presentations. VietnamMarcom operates as a school and involves itself for profit and promotion in events such as this. I was not able to attend but I'll assume it included welcome refreshments, a lunch and at least day long non-alcoholic drinks and snacks. For me the real breakthrough of this conference is that you can download all the presentations off their website so it's almost like being there - for free! Downsides include venue and price. Do we really need to be at a 5-star hotel for these things? The Ad Festival at the Zoo was positively inspiring. Even my company in Korea hosted an event (for 300) at our office that included four levels of the building spanning the rooftop, office, parking lot and stage with an art exhibition, video projections on surrounding buildings, live music and a New Orleans buffet with free beer, wine and whiskey from corporate sponsors. Also - with the economic environment as it is today, is it the best public relations to get film and photos of people in the marketing business living the high-life while the average person struggles to make ends meet? Something to think about, for sure. Last year's BIG SHOW was less successful than previous events held at the Galaxy Cinema because the newer venue was not large enough to handle the crowd, but I always appreciate the effort to get things out of hotels and into more thoughtful and creative environments.

I'm including links and samples to what I think may have been the best presentations of the day. I spent almost an entire day viewing these so at least I felt like I had been to a conference and was tired enough to prove it! The ratings work like this:


1) Concept @@@@@ - The concept of "Differention" kept this from being a plumber's convention

2) Content @@@@ - Speakers and presentations are mostly above average - More involvement from those outside Vietnam (other markets) would be an improvement

3) Venue @@@ - I've said enough about 5-star hotels - I think we can do better for less

4) Cost/Value @@ - At $180 a head this is a lot of money for even a large corporation and keeps the younger in the business out - look below for better value

5) Community. @@@@ - The website really makes this a community service - adding a blog and social networking options for discussion would be a great addition next time - simultaneous translation was also available

TOTAL = 3.6

Individual presentations are linked below. I've featured several of what I would consider the most notable efforts of the day. All are available for download.



TAN HIEP PHAT - Dr. Thanh



Review: The most notable thing about this keynote opening by a representative of the Tan Hiep Phat beverage company is that although the company understands the concept of "Differentiaton" in terms what to put in a beverage and how it differs from other such drinks on the market, they seem almost totally oblivious to the same idea in terms of commercial message making. Long before my post on Detri-viral Marketing some enterprising creatives posted a YouTube comparison of THP's near total look-alike Dr. Thanh commercial to a Chinese beverage commercial. Interesting further is that this THP presentation was given on February 18th and the YouTube video went up on Feb 23rd. Dr. Thanh, are you listening? Since the YouTube posting, more than 5500 people have viewed the simple idea that your company did nothing more than copy another commercial to communicate the idea of differention - and that simply is not believable - certainly not to a crowd of people who create commercials for a living. Just because of all of this I actually tried the beverage and found it to be pretty good - a little expensive, but good. I doubt that any major media is going to make much of this but that's not particularly necessary. This cat has already left the bag and a large part of the industry thinks, well, certainly a little bit less about a product that THP is quite obviously proud of. Everyone thinks THP can do better. THP's lead agency is arguably one of the best in the world and has already done some of the best work in Vietnam for the Asia Injury Prevention Foundation. I suspect they can sell tea quite nicely. With the confidence to formulate and bring a very different product to market already in-hand, learning how to communicate that, in a voice distinctive of the brand is the next logical step in the creation of a truly valuable brand personality. But telling people a brand is different and then having them prove it otherwise is probably not the best message to be sending.

FutureOne

Review: This is one of the days where I wish I could speak or read more Vietnamese, because unfortunately, this presentation is not in English - but it has some simple and very communicative graphics and I want to know more about what it's talking about. There are a few presentations I have not included here because honestly, I just didn't feel they were very good but this one makes the cut because it goes beyond language and makes me want to know more - even as it stands, it makes me think - and that should be what a good conference is all about.

Bates 141 - Gorillas & Bees



Review: This one makes the cut because honestly, who doesn't like friendly gorillas?And what could be more different from a gorilla than bees? It nails the differentiation theme from the first slide. I have to assume that there were commercials shown on another screen to help us understand the analogy to the slides but what it does in spades, as is, is give a couple of case studies that illustrate that conventional wisdom is not always the way to get attention for a brand. Clean. Clear. Entertaining.

TBWA - Disruption

Review: At 71 slides plus video, this one takes the cake for the longest and probably most illustrative of all the day's showings but I, for the life of me, couldn't get the video to play in all the designated slots. Oh, I downloaded Quicktime, and the specified codec but after more than an hour's worth of jacking, couldn't see film. Suffice to say that this is basically TBWA's Disruption philosophy explained, some in work over 20 years old, and in that sense it works. Where it works less well is in making all of this relevant to brands in Vietnam today. Meetings like this are always full of client pitfalls in terms of confidentiality and the ability to show current case studies and I can sympathize with many of the speakers on that front, but at the educational stage that we're in, in this market, clients and brands need to see how something can work here to have the confidence to step out of the box and not do a Dr. Thanh.

TNS - MegaTrends




Review: From Taylor Nelson Sofres research, this is my favorite show of the whole day. Because it's relevant, it makes me think, and I know it will make my client think. This should be the meat behind whatever anybody wants to tell you is a brilliant idea. It's a wonderful introductory insight into the Vietnamese consumer's mind and if your brilliant idea doesn't have these values at heart, it probably missing the hearts and minds of the people who buy whatever it is you're selling.

Red - Brand Builders

Review: What Red brings to the table in Vietnam are that they are people who have committed to the country and bring a wealth of big agency multinational experience without the big agency price tag - but unfortunately you wouldn't know that from this show. What this is, is essentially a capabilities presentation with little or no insight into the concepts of differentiation and no examples of any of their work in a competitive or case study context. Interesting in an agency 101 sense but that's about as far as it goes.

TNS - Apache Motorcycles




Review: Somebody is going to wonder if I'm on the TNS payroll today but I assure you it's not the case. To borrow a line from the ad:tech conferences "all content is 100% editorial" and I just happen to believe that TNS put on two of the most informative and educational sessions of the day. This is a classic case study - written in a classic case study format with background, research, options and solutions, clearly laid out. Recently one of my past colleagues referred to me as a strategic eccentric, the idea being that I pretty much eat research for lunch and then set about trying to marshal insight and creativity to create communications of interest in the afternoon - and that, is essentially true - but without hard data, I would get nowhere. In Vietnam, marketing students, and professionals as well are at a distinct disadvantage for lack of credible and relevant case studies. This is one that, even from India, features a product and core values that all Vietnamese can relate to - maybe worth the price of the whole event.


2) Branding in Times of Economic Slowdown
- non profit

This was a conference hosted Monday April 20th in Hanoi and from all indications looked like it was helpful, cost-effective and ultimately comprehensive for a 1/2 day affair. Co-sponsored by Eurocham, the Vietnam EU Business Forum and the Vietnamese Chamber of Commerce and Industry speakers varied from Ralf Matthaes of Taylor Nelson Sofres to Le Dang Dzung, of Viettel - a more than reasonable mix of internationals and locals and a good introduction to branding as a concept in this still emerging market. But finding anything on the Internet about it was just not possible and all they were able to manage in terms of digital was an email contact. Here it is: veubf@eurocham.vn.org . You can contact them for more information. Where this conference seemed to depart from others is that it was a business organization initiative operated in a non-profit mode. That doesn't mean they didn't make any money, it just means that they didn't get wealthy and although held at the Hilton Opera didn't throw the bar open at the end. Fair game.

1) Concept @@@@ - The concept of "Branding" is still new in Vietnam - good to explain it.

2) Content @@@ - Speakers are above average although missing any major agency.

3) Venue @@@ - Another 5-star hotel. Are hotels the only people making money here?

4) Cost/Value @@@@@ - At $45 a head this is half the price of two other full day conferences, had it gone all day - a good value.

5) Community. @ - No website, no way for participants to continue to connect online afterwards.

TOTAL = 3.2


3) SGN Digital:Marketing - for-profit

This is a tough one for me. I was asked to speak at this conference a few months ago, based on my 2009 Marketing Predictions post and I told them I wanted to wait and see after finding out that the company is in this business for profit and they were not paying speakers or offering any commission on sales for referring sponsors or participants. Hmm? After being asked to speak, I immediately posted on Facebook and LinkedIn that I was speaking and received a flurry of mails inquiring about the event. Wait a minụte - if I'm in the business of actively promoting an event and the event producers are in the business of making money off the event, shouldn't I be able to make money too? Especially in a digital age when you can actually count hits and tag sales to leads that come directly from me? Trick question? No. The answer is yes - but this event does not even have an online payment system. And that is indeed the business of digital marketing. So essentially there is nothing at this event that can guarantee me valuable business leads that turn into real money - and in a world where this blog gets me more leads than anything else I've got going on, do I need to be promoting others for free? It doesn't make sense. Since the start of WWED I've put in three stories a weVietnamMarcom, SDM, Pace, Saigon Digital Marketing, conference, Philip Kotler, TNS, Marketing,  Twitter, Advertising,   Red, ek on a regVietnamMarcom, SDM, Pace, Saigon Digital Marketing, conference, Philip Kotler, TNS, Marketing,  Twitter, Advertising,   Red, ular basis and now have a total of 170 stories - and a lot of readers in that mix and I use that to sell other services. With the amount of good information I put out there for free, I too need to make money off the other things I provide - and that includes public appearances for profit making entities including conferences, universities and corporations who are all, in the end, making money. And the non-profit events? Yes, I'll be more than happy to give my time and energy to things like BarCamp and the like because that's a way I can give back to the community. As far as the great majority of other speakers at events like this, they are being paid by their corporations to promote their respective services and it's simply part of their job - for me, it's an actual source of income.

But on to the SDM event, which is also co-sponsored by VietnamMarcom. All that said previously, am I predisposed to give them a negative review? No, not at all, since it hasn't happened yet, but as is the purpose of this story, I want to give you as accurate a representation as is possible and help you decide where and when your money may be best spent.

VietnamMarcom, SDM, Pace, Saigon Digital Marketing, conference, Philip Kotler, TNS, Marketing,  Twitter, Advertising,   Red, The first thing that struck me about the SDM event, happening on May 23rd, is how close to the Dr. Thanh people they were in terms of communications concept. During our early negotiations the representative kept telling me that I wasn't familiar with the ad:tech model they were using from the United States - so I decided to learn a bit more about the ad:tech series of conferences and see how they stacked up against SDM and can you believe it? SDM is an almost perfect copy of a concept that has been working in the US for twelve years. Amazing or just a bit unsettling? I'm always a bit unsettled when I see things that are as mirror close as this.

VietnamMarcom, SDM, Pace, Saigon Digital Marketing, conference, Philip Kotler, TNS, Marketing,  Twitter, Advertising,   Red, It starts immediately with the logo but jumps precipitously when you get to each conference's respective homepage. It's deja vu, all over again. I just find it all a bit spooky. When the people who copied something write their memoirs will they be honoured for having taken someone else's idea and replicated it? And since ad:tech is in Singapore, Shanghai and Beijing already, is SDM an exportable product these people will have once they've perfected it in Vietnam? It doesn't seem so. I wonder mostly why they didn't join with ad:tech and take advantage of the significant global impact that organisation has had already with the concept - from celebrity speakers to first class organisation - but I'm sure there are cost and profit considerations I'm not aware of.

But unfortunately, the nicking of an idea leads into straight out plagiarism. Here are a couple of snippets directly out of each organisation's site:


ad:tech

The ad:tech conference is 100% editorial content. Speakers are selected on their merit, insight, leadership and ability to share new research and metrics. ad:tech welcomes speakers from all brand categories, agencies, corporations and perspectives. An emphasis on case studies, whenever possible.

Keynotes: are limited to 3-5 marquee speakers per show and typically feature high-profile executives or thought leaders representing key areas of the new marketing landscape.

Panels: are rich opportunities for qualified speakers from every corner of the industry to share insights and experiences with a quality audience. These speaking opportunities also provide a valuable opportunity to gauge the competitive relevance and value of their companies in a highly targeted and interactive forum.

Panel Moderators: are always in demand at ad:tech and represent an equally valuable opportunity for industry leaders to participate in the panel format. Panel discussions involve active pre-production, solicitation of speakers, organization and skill. The panel sessions themselves are one hour in length, which includes audience QA opportunities.

Workshops: are highly focused, interactive learning environments where speakers move from behind the podium to directly engage with attendees.

SDM

SDM conference is 100% editorial content. Speakers are selected on their merit, insight, leadership and ability to share new research and metrics. We welcome speakers from all brand categories, agencies, corporations and perspectives. An emphasis on case studies is preferred.



Keynotes: keynotes: are limited to 2 marquee speakers this show and typically feature high-profile executives or thought leaders representing key areas of the new marketing landscape.

Panels: are rich opportunities for qualified speakers from every corner of the industry to share insights and experiences with a quality audience. These speaking opportunities also provide a valuable opportunity to gauge the competitive relevance and value of their companies in a highly targeted and interactive forum.

Panel Moderators: represent an equally valuable opportunity for industry leaders to participate in the panel format. Panel discussions involve active pre-production, solicitation of speakers, organization and skill. The panel sessions themselves are one hour in length, which includes audience QA opportunities.

Workshops: are highly focused, interactive learning environments where speakers move from behind the podium to directly engage with attendees.



Review:
Hosting on May 23rd at the New World Hotel this will be a full day affair with a good roster of speakers, presentations and moderators including Jeremy Fain of the Interactive Advertising Bureau in the US, Ralf Matthaes of Taylor Nelson Sofres in Vietnam and probably the most locally interesting choice, Bryan Pelz of VinaGame which operates Zing.com one of Vietnam's leading Internet portals.

Probably the most interesting twist of the SDM conference is that although it comes with a registration prices that range from $180 to $280, the two keynote presentations are free and open to the public. Paid attendees are forcast to be around 200 with another 800 allowed to mill about for free during the daylong event. This opens at least a portion of the conference to younger employees and students but it will certainly be interesting to see how the hoi polloi mix with those who paid up to $280 to attend. Downsides include venue and price again for most of us. Since the online advertising market accounts for only roughly 1% of total adspend in Vietnam it would have been nice to have seen the organizers really work on the venue and come up with something that was both creative and cost effective - like and old factory or even the Reunification Palace or HCMC Opera. This is, after all, the
digital ad market and the people who are really pioneering the industry don't exactly work in shiny office towers.

1) Concept
@ - Nicking a business model from the US and just sticking it in Vietnam is not a concept

2) Content @@@ - Speakers and presentations are above average but lacking a real Internet celebrity - my friend Hugh Macleod would have been an excellent choice since he's built a career out of digital marketing and has a book called
"Ignore Everybody" coming out in June. For the prices, this event begs a bigger name than any featured.

3) Venue @@@ - New media requires new thinking - the New World Hotel just puts things back into an old world again

4) Cost/Value @@ - At $180 - $280 we're getting almost to the price of seeing a Nobel Laureate
(see below) - but corporations get the cheapest prices here? Shouldn't there be an entrepreneur's discount? At least there's a cocktail party at the end of the day. This comment from Kay Bayliss, Director of the Asia Digital Marketing Association (a co-sponsor) indicates that their Hong Kong conference costs roughly the same, yet our economies are radically different. Things should cost less in Vietnam.

5) Community. @@@@ - The current SDM website includes a blogging option but there's still not much in it - maybe after the event - also there's a Facebook group. Should SDM put the presentations up for download and begin a regular dialogue with the community via a blog and news, this would add a lot of lasting value to the industry - and there's always the cocktail party.

TOTAL = 2.6



4) Barcamp Saigon - non-profit

Review: My experience at Barcamp Saigon last November at RMIT was the perfect way to introduce myself to Saigon's digital community and continues to yield friends and business contacts to this day - mostly because it is billed as a "user generated tech event" - essentially a "non conference" in that the participants were part of the show and interaction. I have written about it in detail and that story can be found here. For sake of not making this particular post any longer than the bible, let's cut straight to the ratings:

1) Concept @@@@@ - The idea of a "user generated" conference just couldn't be more perfect - and it continued to spark ideas, still spirits and foster friendships throughout the day

2) Content @@@ - Starting with Bryan Pelz of VinaGame and leading all the way through "Sexy Cambodian Bloggers" the day was full of professionals and just plain fun made all by the people who drove the event. At the finale, everyone was given a chance to talk about their experience. Marketing people were scarce (I was the only one?) but I'm sure that will improve with time.

3) Venue @@@@@ - RMIT was professional, casual and had all the facilities including F&B and nice auditoriums and presentation rooms. We didn't seem to need waiters with trays of h'or deovres wading about. Dinner was served at a restaurant outside the venue.

4) Cost/Value @@@@@ - Sponsored by VinaGame, RMIT and IBM the event was completely free with lunch, dinner and drinks included. That really can't be beat.

5) Community. @@@@@ - The interactivity of the event, along with the continued growth of Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, blogs and whatever's next communications has made and continues to make this a growing and vibrant community.

TOTAL = 4.6



So there we have it. Almost the end. Now I realize that I may have missed a whole raft of Ph.D.s, CEOs or those who just might have a bunch of money burning holes in their pockets and so I want to call attention to the arrival of Paul Krugman, sole winner of the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2008. You can see him for $370 including lunch, materials and a certificate (I can't imagine what the certificate states - "This certifies that (your name here) paid $370 to see me in Vietnam"?) courtesy of the Pace Institute of Directors. These are the people who brought us one day of Philip Kotler, the Father of Modern Marketing, last year for somewhere in the neighborhood of $700. There is no website for the current event. I suppose if you can afford this you have little use for Twitter. Conferences at this price make all the marketing events, except SDM, look like an absolute bargain.

For more on time bandit idea & business concept filching, para-normal plagiarism, and all out spooky behaviour, check below:

New York Magazine Steals AsiaLife cover from the future!
Dr. Thanh robbed by Chinese Time Bandits!
SDM:Saigon Digital Marketing victim of para-normal plagiarism!
Bono and international do-gooders caught (Red)handed in idea heist!
Saigon Brand Provocateur steals idea from himself!


For more on digital marketing and social networking see:

Xing vs. LinkedIn: Round II
Trial and Error: The New Normal
What's Wrong With My Social Networking? Xing vs. LinkedIn I
Low Tech Germany. Who Knew?
Advertising People and Blogs
How to Write the Best Blog in the World
What If Gutenberg Had a Blog?
If Blogs Are Free Does That Make Them Worthless?
Detri-Viral Marketing II: The Top 10 Social Media Blunders
Bright Lights, Big Internet and the WWED
Saigon Digital Marketing Conference Successfully Avoids Plumbers Convention
A Tale of Many Marketing Conferences
Detri-Viral Marketing I: How Web 2.0 Can Go Against A Brand
Marketing Predictions for 2009
Barcamp Saigon 2008
"Ignore Everybody" is Born: A Plug for Hugh MacLeod
Are the Bloggerati Missing the Market? Asia has Risen,
Into the Gapinvoid - Web 2.0 Social Networking Born 20 Years Ago


The Wild Wild East Dailies


D a v i d E v e r i t t - C a r l s o n
-------------------------------------------------
Find me on Twitter, Facebook or LinkedIn. Read my blog: The Wild Wild East Dailies and keep up on our efforts with aSaigon/CreativeMorning.